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An interview with Barb Roose, Author of Winning the Worry Battle

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book cover winning the worry battleFor those who struggle with worry and anxiety, each day can feel as if they are fighting a losing battle. From personal experience, author Barb Roose understands what it means to battle with worry. She has written Winning the Worry Battle: Life Lessons from the Book of Joshua (Abingdon Press/April 17, 2018/$16.99) to help other women gain victory over their anxieties by fighting with faith. 

 Scripture tells us we gain nothing from worrying, but having that knowledge does little for the flow of negative thoughts. When well-meaning Christian friends try to offer encouragement with comments such as “God’s got this!” or “Just pray about it,” it can lead to a burden of guilt for not having enough faith. Whether it’s personal worries about loved ones and daily circumstances or broader concerns about what’s happening in the world, everyone longs for something more than platitudes that will help put real feet to faith for winning the worry battle. Roose shares that while prayer is important, it is only half of the solution. The other half of the equation is developing the tools required to learn how to fight in faith.

 Winning the Worry Battle delves into three tools to battle worry bravely. Applying these tools will help us overcome our daily struggles and the bigger battles we all face.

 

Q: How many people are affected by worry and anxiety disorders? How much time does the average person spend worrying daily?

 I’ll share with you some of the statics I found while writing Winning the Worry Battle. According to the Anxiety and Depression Association of America (updated August 2016):

  • Anxiety disorders are the most common mental illness in the U.S., affecting 40 million adults in the United States age 18 and older, or 18% of the population. (Source: National Institute of Mental Health)
  • Anxiety disorders cost the U.S. more than $42 billion a year, almost one-third of the country’s $148 billion total mental health bill, according to “The Economic Burden of Anxiety Disorders,” a study commissioned by ADAA (The Journal of Clinical Psychiatry, 60(7), July 1999).
  • Women are twice as likely to be affected by Panic Disorder, Generalized Anxiety Disorder, Social Anxiety Disorder, and specific phobias and are more likely to deal with Posttraumatic Stress Disorder.

The average person worries about 55 minutes per day. Someone diagnosed with an anxiety disorder can worry up to 300 minutes per day. Imagine a mom spending one hour per day tortured by mental movies of pain, heartache, uncertainty, or disaster while she’s trying to be productive at work, cook dinner for her family, or provide support for her friends. Instead of being present in the here-and-now, worry and anxiety cheat us by introducing fear and panic into our present and causing us to dread the future.

 

Q: What are the most common things people worry about? What are some of the things you worry about on a regular basis?

 According to a 2014 Gallup poll, Americans were most worried about:

  •  Money (46%)
  • Direction of our country (46%)
  • Social security system (46%)
  • Possible terrorist attacks (51%)
  • Economy (53%)
  • Availability of healthcare (54%)

(Source: https://www.bustle.com/articles/70778-what-do-americans-worry-about-the-most-gallup-poll-reveals-the-nations-top-concerns)

 My biggest worries were mostly focused in other directions. I spent much of my growing years worried about whether or not God was angry with me. I lived by a system of dos and don’ts because I didn’t understand grace. When I messed up, I obsessed about if God would be angry or punish me. In college, I finally understood grace, so that worry faded into the background.

After I married and began a family, my worries surrounded my kids and career, but mostly my kids. I write about how one of my daughters had ADHD and Asperger’s. I lived on red-alert status because I constantly worried she’d get hit by a car, have a freak accident, or wander away in the mall. My mind spun awful mental movies when my kids were growing up. I imagined hundreds of ways for them to get hurt or die. I really struggled with worst-first thinking, which led to a lot of helicopter parenting. When I learned what it really meant to fight in faith, I was able to see how God equipped me to win over worry.

 

Q: How did your battle with worry impact your family and friends?

If I had to define the intensity of my worry on a scale of 1-10, I’d choose 9 to describe my teen through early parenting years. My biggest driver was that I wanted everyone (including myself) to be happy and everything to be in its place. In my mind, uncertainty was always evil. Whenever I faced the unknown, I filled in the gaps with my best thinking and self-effort.

What this meant for my family was that my husband and children often had to deal with an overly vigilant and bossy person. My heart and mind were trapped endlessly in what author Lenore Skenazy defines as “worst first thinking.” Since I always imagined the worst-case scenario, I policed my family because I wanted to keep them safe. I questioned their actions and tried to control outcomes because, at my core, I was worried they would be hurt or not experience their maximum level of happiness (according to me). They didn’t appreciate my helicopter mom ways or nagging wife moments. Thankfully, God worked in my life, but it took some hard moments and a lot of counseling.

 

Q: How often do the things we worry about actually happen? Even if these things were to happen, aren’t most of them out of our control?

 In his book The Worry Cure, Robert Leahy, Ph.D. did a study, and his data revealed that 85% of what test subjects worried about never happened. Furthermore, even though 15% of those worries came true, 79% of the subjects discovered they could handle the hardship better than expected. Even more compelling is that those subjects also reported their hardship enabled them to learn valuable life lessons.

Q: What is the difference between worry and anxiety?

 Most of the time, people use the worry and anxiety interchangeably. Mental health professionals differ on the opinion of which condition is more severe than the other. For my book, I use the terms interchangeably to cover the bases.

By definition, worry means “to torment” or “to strangle.” Anxiety is defined by a sense of unease, especially in uncertainty. Both can have difficult, even debilitating physical symptoms such as racing heartbeat, sleep issues, over/under-eating, nausea, inability to concentrate, excessive crying, short temper, headache, or trembling.

 

Q: Many times in response to sharing our worries, we are told to “just pray about it.” Why can hearing that advice make things worse for us instead of offering reassurance?

I grew up in the church and felt like I had a good relationship with God. However, when my worries escalated due to child-rearing stress, financial difficulties, and marriage problems, “just praying” didn’t work for me. Sometimes I couldn’t even get through a prayer because as soon as I closed my eyes to pray, worries would flood my mind with awful mental movies. I would feel so guilty because I couldn’t pray. Often, I would get angry when I did pray but nothing changed. At times, I figured God wasn’t helping because He was mad at me for my constant worrying.

Throughout the years, I learned that “just pray about it” was only part of the equation to dealing with worry. I also learned that without knowing and activating the other half of the solution, guilt and discouragement often follow. It took time, but eventually I discovered the other half of the equation was learning how to “fight in faith,” or activating the fighting friends of peace, courage, and strength. Prayer and fighting in faith were both necessary to experience God’s victory.

 

Q: Tell us more about the three fighting friends a person should take with them into the battle with worry.

 Our three fighting friends are powerful tools God gives us: peace, courage, and strength. In the book, I talk about how these tools help us change the channel from our worried thoughts to fixing our minds on God’s promises. These three fighting friends are active warriors we rely upon when we’re not praying.

Peace is the fighting friend that quiets your mind and assures you of security. It whispers, God is here. You aren’t alone, even when circumstances around you scream otherwise. When you have peace, your mind isn’t panicking, your heart isn’t racing, and your stomach isn’t threatening to erupt. Instead, your mind is calm, your heartbeat is slow and steady, and your stomach is settled.

Courage is the fighting friend that keeps you from running away from your struggles—even when you really, really want to escape or ignore your troubles. Courage keeps you pushing forward in commitment instead of falling back in the face of fear or worry.

Our final fighting friend is strength. It enables us to keep holding on and hanging on. This fighting friend is different from our human strength, which has its limits. Our human strength isn’t enough to win over worry. We need spiritual strength. Instead of trying to move your mountain of problems on your own, you step back and out of God’s way and let him do the heavy lifting. Spiritual strength requires you to give up your “I can do it” or “I can handle it” mindset and tap into “God’s got this” mindset instead.

The key to our fighting friends is training them because our fighting friends are only as effective as we develop them. In the book, we talk about training our fighting friends and introduce a number of tools to help us train our fighting friends because they are what help us get into position for God to give us victory ever day of our lives over worry.

 

Q: What are the different ways worry can manifest itself in women?

At the beginning of Winning the Worry Battle, I identify four different types of worriers:

  • Silent Sufferer: keeps all of her fears and worries to herself
  • Busy Body: overworks to control worry
  • Control Freak: manipulates to reduce fear and worry
  • Mother Hen: nags others to feel calmer

It’s difficult to admit this, I was definitely 88% control freak and 12% Mother Hen. I stayed worried about making sure that every stayed happy and safe, including me. In fact, I even bought a house without telling my husband because I worried that our current house wouldn’t be good enough for our family in the future. Thank goodness God brought me along way BEFORE the advent of texting, or else I would have nagged my kids to death via text message with constant inquires about “Did you forget . . .” “Do you have . . .” and “What about . . . ?” As moms, we have to check ourselves to make sure that those constant contacts with our kids aren’t about trying to satisfy our worry.

 

Q: There are verses about worry throughout the New Testament. Why did you focus your Biblical study of worry on the book of Joshua?

 I love adventure, and Joshua has always been a biblical figure that has defined courage for me. In fact, many years ago, Joshua inspired me to go skydiving.

Yet, as I learned about Joshua, I noticed that God kept repeating the phrases, “be strong and courageous” as well as “don’t be afraid or discouraged.” I began asking why God would keep repeating those phrases to Joshua. While Joshua doesn’t have much dialogue God’s words give us some clues into his mental and emotional state. It seems Joshua might have had to battle some type of worry and anxiety just like we do.

 

Q: How do we learn to view uncertainty from God’s perspective rather than our own?

I felt such freedom when I realized God protects me with what He doesn’t give me as much as He blesses me with what He does give me. God doesn’t struggle with our uncertainty. He’s totally comfortable leaving open-ended timelines, unresolved issues, and “which path should I choose?” quandaries. At times, I’ve gotten frustrated with God because I wanted Him to settle some of the big uncertainties in my life because I hated living in the tension of the unknown. Yet, God’s taught me two things about uncertainty:

  1. I can’t know everything that God knows.
  2. I don’t want to know everything that God knows.

Part of why I loved studying the book of Joshua was the Israelites dealt with one unknown situation after another. Yet, their faith and foundation weren’t in having the detailed answers; rather they had to keep pressing and pushing forward, trusting a detailed God who would give them the answers as they needed them. That’s the powerful lesson I keep learning each day.

 

Q: Explain what you mean by “the fear of our fear is actually our worry.”

 Think about a specific fear, such as spiders. I hate spiders! When we can picture what we are afraid of, we don’t look at that fear in a vacuum. Instead, we imagine different storylines for how our fear might hurt us. I call these extension fears our “what if” worries. Questions such as “What if the spider bites me?” or “What if I’m trapped in a room with a spider?” Our original fear was a spider, but the “what if’s” are the worries that branch off of our original fear. Those worries are like the legs of a spider that extend from our original fear. I actually call this eight-legged worry.

This also explains why the Bible has so many verses about “do not fear.” God knows that one fear could branch out and develop lots of other fears associated with it.

 

Q: What other resources are available to go along Winning the Worry Battle

 I have also written the six-week Joshua: Winning the Worry Battle Bible study that is releasing at the same time as the book. There is a participant workbook, leader guide, leader kit, and DVD that provide an in-depth study on the book of Joshua.

Joshua is a culmination of events that began in Genesis and followed the Israelites for 450 years through the desert. Bible scholars will love the study because you’ll get to see stunning examples of howAuthor Barb Roose events in Genesis through Numbers are tied up in Joshua. There are also tools and self-evaluation devices to help participants gauge how they are making progress in their worry battle.

Both the book and Bible study contain lots of practical tools, such as CALM Technique, 1+1 Prayer Technique, God-Morning/God-Night Technique, Carefrontation Sandwich, and much more!

Visit Barb Roose’s online home at barbroose.com. Readers can also keep up with her on Facebook (BarbaraRoose), Twitter (barbroose), and Instagram (barbroose).

 

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Etta Hornsteiner

Etta Hornsteiner has spent 12 years as an Educator teaching both English and Acting. Her love for fitness led her into bodybuilding competitions and later into a career as a personal trainer. She holds a Bachelor of Arts degree with honors from Acadia University in Nova Scotia, Canada in English and minors in Sociology and Spanish, a Master’s degree in Education with emphasis in Theatre from Regent University in Virginia Beach, Virginia, a Master's degree in Integrative Health and Wellness Coaching from Maryland University of Integrative Health, and a coaching certificate from Duke Integrative Health. She is certified by the National Board of Health and Wellness Coaching and the International Coaching Federation. She is the author of the Ten Guiding Lights to Health and Wholeness.

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